No Tue Scotsman Logical Fallacy

Alot of Lefties suffer from this textbook logical fallacy about protesting in Portland. Which has led to the inevitable end of the BLM, Roe v Wade, Gaza at PSU & now the current movement. This is NOT "the will of the community." This is a tactic used to divide the community, make everyone fed up & go home...ending the protest. Portland has seen it time & time again. Are we ever gonna learn? Do you know the definition of insanity? Doing the same thing over & over, expecting the different outcome.

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2025/10/30 Edited to

... Read moreYou know, I've been thinking a lot about logical fallacies lately, especially the 'No True Scotsman' one. It's fascinating how often it pops up in everyday conversations and even serious debates, and once you recognize it, you can't unsee it! The core idea, as I understand it, is an 'appeal to purity' to dismiss criticism. Basically, someone makes a generalization about a group. Then, when a counter-example is given that contradicts their generalization, instead of admitting their initial statement was flawed, they redefine the group to exclude the counter-example. It’s like saying, 'Ah, but that person isn't a true member of that group!' This isn't just about semantics; it's a way to avoid valid criticism and shift the goalposts in an argument. The classic example often used, which I saw illustrated in an image recently, is about a Scotsman. Imagine someone says, 'No Scotsman puts sugar on his porridge.' Then, someone replies, 'My uncle Angus is Scots, and he puts sugar on his porridge.' The fallacious response would be, 'Ah, but no true Scotsman puts sugar on his porridge.' See how the definition of 'Scotsman' subtly changed to maintain the original, flawed generalization? It’s a clever, albeit dishonest, way to protect one's belief without engaging with contradictory evidence. I've personally encountered this in so many contexts. Think about sports fans: 'No true fan would leave before the game ends!' Then someone points out a loyal fan who had an emergency, and the response might be, 'Well, they weren't a true fan then.' Or in creative communities: 'No true artist would use that technique.' It instantly dismisses anyone who doesn't fit a narrow, often arbitrary, definition. It's frustrating because it shuts down diverse perspectives and innovation. What I find particularly relevant, especially after seeing it applied to discussions about movements and protests, is how it's used to invalidate dissent. When people say, 'No true activist would engage in that kind of protest,' they're essentially trying to delegitimize an entire movement by cherry-picking what they consider 'acceptable' behavior. It creates division and makes it harder to address the core issues. It’s a tactic that makes people fed up and can inadvertently lead to protests ending without their demands being met, as the original post points out. It diverts attention from the actual message by attacking the 'purity' of the messengers. So, how do we spot and counter this? For me, the key is to ask: Is the person redefining a category simply to avoid a counter-argument? Are they setting up an impossible standard of 'purity'? When you hear phrases like 'true believer,' 'real [group member],' or 'authentic [category],' that's often a red flag. Pointing out the shift in definition clearly and calmly can help. Explain that the original statement was a general claim about a group, and the counter-example is valid for that general group, regardless of a newly imposed 'purity test.' It helps bring the conversation back to the actual topic and prevents the goalposts from being moved. Understanding this fallacy empowers you to engage in more productive discussions and recognize when someone is trying to evade the truth.