unfortunately there are too many irresponsible men that dgaf. If someone finds a man that stays, that wants to be in that kid's life. That alone should be enough to let him be the final say

I agree with this 1,000,000% except there are also some Dad’s out there really aren’t Dad in the real sense of parenting your children for example like you know they’re there they’re present they live in the home nuclear family husband, wife kids, except the dad is completely disengage from the day today raising and activities and teachable moments and discipline of the household. He’s not you know there’s no it’s just there’s no engagement on his end. No concern on his end and mom is just doing everything from having her own job from doing being a independent having her own job and then alsotaking care of all the household responsibilities, cooking cleaning kids homework, kids doctors appointments, kids sports projects school projects everything with the kids and the father is there. He’s just not engaged at all in that since there is a big problem within the marriage and the parenting process and stuff like that.