TRUMP DIDN'T HAVE A RELATIONSHIP WITH EPSTEIN! FUCKING LIAR!
Before Trump's presidency and Epstein's conviction as a sex offender, the two socialized at soirées with Victoria's Secret models, parties in Palm Beach, Florida, and trips between New York and Florida on Epstein's private jet.
Trump told New York Magazine in 2002 that the pair also shared an affinity for beautiful women, and Trump called Epstein a "terrific guy."
Trump's relationship with Epstein has garnered renewed scrutiny after the Trump administration reversed course on its pledge to release its collection of investigative evidence related to Epstein.
In 2019, when Epstein was arrested on federal sex trafficking charges, Trump told reporters he was "not a fan of his, that I can tell you. I was not a fan of his." He also said he hadn't spoken to Epstein in 15 years, which would have been 2004.
On July 23, White House communications director Steven Cheung said on CNN that Trump kicked Epstein out of Mar-a-Lago for "being a creep."
On July 28, Trump told reporters at his golf property in Turnberry, Scotland, the reason for the rift was that Epstein "stole" young women who worked for his Mar-a-Lago spa in Palm Beach.
Trump didn't specify a timeline for when it happened, but called it "such old history." He said, "For years I wouldn't talk to Jeffrey Epstein."
"He stole people that worked for me. I said, 'Don't ever do that again.' He did it again, and I threw him out of the place, persona non grata," Trump said.
On July 29, Trump elaborated on his remarks from the day before, acknowledging that Epstein accuser Virginia Giuffre was among spa staffers he said Epstein had poached from him.
"I think (Giuffre) worked at the spa," Trump said aboard Air Force One. "He stole her."
Giuffre died by suicide in April. In 2009, under the pseudonym "Jane Doe 102," she said Epstein's convicted former girlfriend and accomplice, Ghislaine Maxwell, recruited her while she was a minor working at Mar-a-Lago to be the late sex offender's masseuse. Giuffre's family responded to Trump's July 29 comments, saying his latest account raises questions about the president's prior knowledge of Epstein's criminal wrongdoing.
Giuffre spoke publicly in 2011 about her abuse, Axios reported.
Social Security records submitted to the court during Giuffre's defamation case against Maxwell show that Giuffre was a locker room spa attendant at Mar-a-Lago in summer 2000, two years before Trump called Epstein a "terrific guy." The precise dates and duration of her employment at Mar-a-Lago remained unclear when the lawsuit settled in 2017, ABC News reported.
Oct. 2007: Trump barred Epstein from Mar-a-Lago for his behavior toward a teenager.
Trump barred Epstein from Mar-a-Lago after Epstein behaved inappropriately toward a club member's teenage daughter.
That's about eight months before Epstein pleaded guilty in Florida to state counts of solicitation of prostitution and solicitation of prostitution from someone under 18 years old, and about one year after a Florida grand jury indicted Epstein on a single count of soliciting prostitution.
The New York Times reported this month that Trump told some associates that this was the reason he distanced himself from Epstein. Lawyer Brad Edwards, who has represented Epstein's victims, said Trump told him this story in 2009, the Times reported.
Democrats push for disclosure of the Epstein files
The committee agreed to redact information on victims, yet Democrats successfully blocked a push by Republicans to only subpoena information that was deemed to be "credible" — language that Trump has also used when discussing what he would support releasing.
Furor has grown on the right over the Trump administration's reversal on promises related to Epstein, several Democrats have seized on the opportunity to divide Republicans on the issue.
Republican leaders accuse Democrats of caring about the issue purely for political gain. They point out that the Department of Justice held on to the Epstein investigation through the presidency of Democrat Joe Biden.
Trump's Justice Department has also sought the release of testimony from secret grand jury proceedings in the Epstein case, but a federal judge in Florida rejected that request on Wednesday. A similar records request is still pending in New York.
From a personal perspective, navigating the tangled web of relationships involving high-profile figures like Donald Trump and Jeffrey Epstein reveals just how complicated public narratives can be. Having followed numerous reports and statements over the years, I’ve noticed the persistent discrepancies and evolving accounts that make it difficult for the public to grasp a complete picture. One aspect that struck me was the timeline of interactions between Trump and Epstein. Before Epstein’s conviction, they were reportedly seen together at upscale parties and social events alongside celebrities and models, reflecting a social circle that overlaps frequently in elite settings. Trump’s 2002 remark calling Epstein a "terrific guy" contrasts sharply with his later claims of distancing himself, emphasizing how relationships in such circles can evolve based on unfolding events. The revelations about Mar-a-Lago are particularly chilling. Learning that Epstein allegedly "stole" employees from Trump's spa, including Virginia Giuffre, who later became a prominent accuser, adds complexity to the narrative. Giuffre's tragic death points to the deep and enduring impact of these abuses, highlighting the human side often lost in political and media battles. Moreover, the political maneuvers surrounding the release—or withholding—of investigative files on Epstein show how justice and transparency can become entangled with partisan interests. From attending to victim protection through redactions to accusations of political posturing, the saga continues to unfold in courtrooms and Congress alike. For those of us observing from the outside, it raises important questions about accountability, the influence of power, and the truth behind public personas. It also reminds me how vital it is to critically evaluate sources, remain aware of ongoing developments, and consider the real lives impacted amid high-profile controversies. In sum, the Trump-Epstein relationship is a reminder that appearances and initial statements often mask deeper realities. Continuing to seek clarity and listening to survivors’ experiences are crucial steps toward understanding and addressing such complex issues more effectively.
