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Being deducted by the employer

What happened when we worked in a cafe, and now the shop is ruined, we asked to resign because we got an office job near the property, and the owner said that we would deduct the insurance amount of 500 ฿. At that time, we wanted to leave, give him a deduction. We wanted to know if he could do this too. 🤔

But throughout his career, the shopkeeper was quite Toxic and some of his subordinates. Once we got a new job, we left for a long time.

# Labour law# Waitress # Labour protection # Lemon 8 Howtoo # Resignation experience

2025/8/20 Edited to

... Read moreถ้าเจอสถานการณ์ “นายจ้างหักค่าประกันงาน” แล้วให้เหตุผลว่าเราทำผิดกฎบริษัท (หรือผิดกฎร้าน) แนะนำให้ตั้งสติและไล่เช็กเป็นข้อ ๆ ก่อนค่ะ เพราะหลายที่ใช้คำว่า “ผิดกฎ” กว้างมาก แต่การหักเงินจากค่าจ้างทำได้ไม่ใช่ว่าจะทำอะไรก็ได้ 1) เริ่มจากขอดู “ข้อตกลง” ให้ชัดเจน - ตอนเริ่มงานเราเคยเซ็นเอกสารเรื่องเงินประกัน/ค่ามัดจำไหม? มีระบุจำนวน เงื่อนไขการคืน และกรณีที่จะไม่คืนหรือเปล่า - ถ้าเป็นแค่บอกปากเปล่า หรือไม่มีหลักฐานเป็นลายลักษณ์อักษร โอกาสที่นายจ้างจะอ้างแล้วหักเลย มักเป็นจุดที่โต้แย้งได้ค่ะ 2) “ทำผิดกฎบริษัท” ต้องชี้ให้ชัดว่าผิดอะไร และเสียหายเท่าไร ต่อให้มี “กฎ” จริง ก็ควรถามให้เคลียร์ว่า - เราผิดข้อไหน (ขอเป็นข้อความ/ประกาศ/คู่มือพนักงาน) - ความเสียหายเกิดขึ้นจริงไหม และคิดเป็นเงินเท่าไร หลายครั้งนายจ้างเหมารวมว่า “ลาออกกะทันหัน = ผิดกฎ” แล้วหักเงินประกันทันที ทั้งที่ควรมีขั้นตอนเตือน/สอบข้อเท็จจริง หรืออย่างน้อยต้องอธิบายเหตุผลและยอดเงินแบบตรวจสอบได้ 3) แยกให้ออก: “เงินประกันงาน” vs “ค่าปรับ/ค่าเสียหาย” - เงินประกันงานมักถูกใช้เป็นชื่อเรียกเงินมัดจำเพื่อค้ำประกันการทำงาน แต่ในทางปฏิบัติ ถ้าจะยึดไว้ต้องมีเหตุผลที่พิสูจน์ได้และเป็นธรรม - ถ้านายจ้างบอกว่าเป็น “ค่าปรับ” เพราะทำผิดกฎบริษัท ให้ดูว่ากฎหมาย/ข้อตกลงอนุญาตให้ปรับแบบนั้นไหม และเป็นการหักค่าจ้างที่เข้าข่ายไม่ชอบหรือเปล่า 4) วิธีเก็บหลักฐานแบบคนทำงานจริง (เผื่อใช้ทวง/ร้องเรียน) - สลิปเงินเดือน/สเตทเมนต์วันที่เงินเข้า และยอดที่ถูกหัก - แชตกับนายจ้าง/ผู้จัดการที่บอกว่าจะหักเงินประกันงาน - ตารางกะ ใบลงเวลา เอกสารลาออก (ถ้ามี) - กฎร้าน/ประกาศ/สัญญาจ้างที่เคยเซ็น ทริกของเราคือ “สรุปเป็นไทม์ไลน์” สั้น ๆ ว่าเริ่มงานวันไหน แจ้งลาออกวันไหน โดนหักวันไหน จำนวนเท่าไร จะคุยกับเจ้าหน้าที่ง่ายมาก 5) ถ้าอยากทวงเงิน ทำอย่างไรให้ไม่พังความสัมพันธ์เกินไป - เริ่มจากทักไปแบบสุภาพ ขอรายละเอียดการหักเงิน (ผิดกฎข้อไหน คิดยอดยังไง) และขอคืนส่วนที่ไม่เกี่ยวกับความเสียหายจริง - ถ้าอีกฝ่ายเงียบ/ตอบแบบไม่ชัด ให้ส่งข้อความสรุปอีกครั้ง (เหมือนเป็นหลักฐาน) ว่าเราขอให้คืนเงินภายในกี่วัน 6) ช่องทางปรึกษา/ร้องเรียน ถ้าคุยกันไม่ลงตัว แนะนำปรึกษา “สำนักงานสวัสดิการและคุ้มครองแรงงาน” ในพื้นที่ หรือสายด่วนกรมสวัสดิการและคุ้มครองแรงงาน 1506 เพื่อเช็กว่าการหักเงินแบบนี้เข้าข่ายถูกต้องไหม และต้องเตรียมเอกสารอะไรบ้าง ส่วนตัวเรามองว่า คำว่า “ทำผิดกฎบริษัท” ไม่ควรถูกใช้เป็นเหตุผลลอย ๆ เพื่อหักเงินประกันงาน โดยไม่มีหลักฐานหรือการชี้แจงที่ตรวจสอบได้ค่ะ ถ้าคุณโดนหัก 500 บาทเหมือนกัน ลองไล่เช็กเอกสาร+เก็บหลักฐานก่อน แล้วค่อยตัดสินใจว่าจะทวง/ร้องเรียนดีไหมตามความคุ้มค่าและสุขภาพจิตของเรา

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